Thread subject: Great Lakes Slot Car Club :: Can-Am car rules

Posted by Twister on 06/29/2010
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Can-Am was run between 1966 and 1974 ,and because most of the available cars are so drastically different this will be a "builders" series. Items in red indicate rule changes or additions after original publish date.) Cars: ______________________________________________________________________ Fly: Porsche 908 and 908/2 ( no 908-3 , no Flunder ) Porsche 917 Spyder Porsche 917-10 Sloter: Lola T280 or 290 Monogram: Lola T-70 roadster McLaren M6A Chapparal 2C ( must be painted , the real Can-Am car was called a Chinook and was bodied from a monogram slot car ) Historic Scale Racing Replicas (HSRR): McLaren M8d Racer: Ferrari 350P Alfa Romeo 33/3 Chapparal 2E Slot.It: Chapparal 2E Alfa Romeo 33/3 Carrera: Porsche 917-30 McLaren M20 You may use resin or model kit bodies, however they must be pre-approved. You must use a Slot.It HRS chassis with these bodies. Chassis: Stock or Any (sorry for the late change , I didn't realize the HRS chassis was too wide ) Motor: Any Pinion: Any Spur/crown gear: Any Guide flag: Any (Wood track flags must be trimmed down to work on all tracks ) Guide flag spacer: Yes Axles: Any Axle spacers: Yes Wheels: Any (some cars take a wider tire than even the F1s so any wheel tire combo will be ok Wheel inserts: Yes, must have period correct inserts (1966- 1974) Tires: Any (must fit inside all 4 wheel openings, ) True/coat front tires: Yes Lead wires: Any Braid: Any Body screws/Mounting: Any Body: Stock (resin and/or kit bodies must be complete, roll-bars ,windshields ,wings ,spoilers, etc. must be in place. May remove body components from chassis and glue to body. Body lowering: Yes (must also meet ride height requirements min .030 track clearance) Paint: Yes Race #s: Yes (must have at least 3) Interior: Stock (kit and resin car interiors may have to be scratch-built, no lexan ). Ride height/ track clearance: Min .030 (including lead) Driver: Yes (no lexan) Sponsor decals: Yes (also must be period correct, no I-Pod , Verizon or other similar contemporary sponsors) Many people have spoken to me and said that they didn't want another "spec" series. And, many people have said they wanted a "builders " series. This is our chance to try something new, however some may have more limited skills than others, don't be afraid to ask someone for help. Thanks! Twister

Edited by Allen on 07/23/2010

Posted by SmilinRay on 06/29/2010
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Twister wrote: Can-Am was run between 1966 and 1974 ,and because most of the availabe cars are so drastically different this will be a "builders" series. Wheel inserts : yes ,must have period correct inserts ( 1966- 1974 ) Interior : stock (kit and resin car interiors may have to be scratch-built ,no lexan ). Driver : yes ( no lexan )
Twister and I will be working on getting appropriate resin wheel inserts available. I already have plenty of pre-painted resin driver figures available. See my web site (in Web Links) and let me know if/when you need one.

Posted by Ken on 07/01/2010
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Food for thought: aftermarket silicone tire widths Ninco 1200=.410 Fly classic=.430 F1=.470 HSRR McLaren=.605 Why no F1's?

Posted by The Saw on 07/01/2010
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So which PPR is that Ken?

Posted by Allen on 07/01/2010
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Fly also produces a Porsche 908/2 is that allowed?

Posted by Ken on 07/01/2010
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Gar, The tires on my car are Indy Grips. I don't think PPR makes one, but I believe there are others out there.

Posted by Ken on 07/01/2010
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I missed the front tire thing, have to admit that concerns me as well. And maybe some clarification on interiors please? If I scratch build a slammed car with an inline chassis, much more than a helmet and the top of the steering wheel is gonna look goofy. What is the minimum requirement?

Posted by Ken on 07/01/2010
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Do we know if all these cars front tires touch when stock from the manufacturer? I have five cars that are legal for this class but none of them are legal because of the front tires. The wheel inserts are a bit of a concern as well. Is Ray really going to have inserts available for every aftermarket wheel?

Edited by Ken on 07/01/2010

Posted by SmilinRay on 07/02/2010
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Ken wrote: The wheel inserts are a bit of a concern as well. Is Ray really going to have inserts available for every aftermarket wheel?
Probably not, but many wheels that I've seen, and I've certainly not seen them all, have similar recess size. Much of this needs to be worked out but if I can get examples of wheels wished to be used, I believe I can make the appropriate inserts. Again, much needs to be worked out and I know Ronny's intention is to have "series and era" accurate wheels, not necessarily the precise wheel that was on a particular car. Ronny, do I have this correct?

Posted by Twister on 07/02/2010
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The idea for the wheels touching the track is to keep some of the guide flags from tearing up the copper tape on peoples tracks , I have had this happen to me before . Wheel inserts can also be made by turning down the stock wheels . The interiors dont have to be a full tub . I dont know of a908/2 but the 903/3 is not legal .

Posted by Ken on 07/03/2010
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So you're suggesting we change the rules for all our classes so the front tires touch?

Posted by Twister on 07/03/2010
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To much grief, the tires touching the track rule has been deleted

Posted by SmilinRay on 07/03/2010
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Twister wrote: To much grief, the tires touching the track rule has been deleted
Maybe saying no more than a business card fitting under the front tires is appropriate. I would not want to see tires an 1/8 inch off the track! Angry

Posted by CYIROCK on 07/03/2010
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Allen, Fly's 908/3 never ran in the series, but a 908/10 did run, which was essentially a 908/3 body coupled with a horizontal spoiler attached high up between the vertical fins. Ask Ron if he will let you run the car in this configuration... Rich

Posted by Allen on 07/03/2010
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I was asking about the 908/2. Fly makes these as well as the 908 and 908/3. Just curious. Also I was under the impression that we were allowing the Sloter Lola T290?

Posted by Twister on 07/05/2010
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Sorry for the delay , I just found out what the 908/2 is , looks just like a 908 , it will be o.k. I forgot about the Slotter Lola , again its o.k.

Posted by Ken on 07/06/2010
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Here's a new one. Bought an HRS chassis. The narrowest wheel I can put on the front axle are small Slot-it's like off a Sauber or 962. With those wheels the front end measures 2.45". I have Fly 917's, a HSRR McLaren's, and the Monogram Lola from the series. That width front end won't fit under any of them. Not sure what Slot-it was thinking, I went through at least 40 cars, I found two that I might be able to get that front end under. Can we modify the chassis to get it under a body?

Posted by Twister on 07/06/2010
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I know how that chassis is made , its to wide , but if you use hub-less wheels , it works fine --- no you can't modify the chassis . I didn't put this chassis in the rules to make it easy , I did it to make it hard. Too many cars can be made "winners" by building the original car ,the idea of " the more I spend , The faster I'll be " is nonsense , a really fast car can be made , without spending oodles of bucks fairly easy . Remember , we race one lots of different tracks , they all race different!

Posted by Twister on 07/06/2010
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By the way , I saw a Monogram Lola , turn 7.1s on randy's track , with the stock chassis !

Posted by Sofa King on 07/06/2010
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as far as I can see T162s ran the original series not the T280s